— We have previously addressed questions regarding media and technology in the context of artistic creation, which leads me to my final question. Moving from your personal artistic exploration to your perspective as an educator. You have spoken about satisfying your curiosity through both traditional and new processes, which brings up the context of art education today. We are currently witnessing a paradigm shift in art education driven by technology.
From my observation in China, there is a growing trend where traditional disciplines, such as painting, sculpture, and pure photography, are being restructured or integrated into broader interdisciplinary programs like ‘Art and Technology’ or ‘Art and Engineering’, with some comprehensive universities even choosing to discontinue these traditional courses entirely.
It seems that the UK perhaps maintains a different balance or philosophy regarding these changes. In your view, what is the enduring value of these traditional disciplines in the technological age? Do you see them as providing a unique, irreplaceable mode of thinking or craftsmanship that digital tools cannot replicate, or do they need to fundamentally evolve to survive? How would you respond to the argument that ‘traditional skills are becoming outdated’?
—That is a very big question on an issue I feel very passionate about. I think one of the dangers of new technology is that people are spending an increasingly amount of time experiencing the world through a screen. Given the richness of the world in terms of texture, smells, and color, it seems sad to rule out all those experiences in favor of something that has been mediated through a screen. There are lots of studies, for example, on the dangers of young children spending too long looking at screens rather than engaging in social activities with their peers.
I think one of the crucial things about traditional processes is that they all start with the body. If you’re making something that fits in the hand, versus something that fits on the back of a truck, those are two infinitely different experiences. It is very important to develop a sensibility towards specific things and to understand that the meaning of something is determined by its shape, size, color, texture, and smell. Traditional processes help to embody these experiences.
Regarding the pressures students face in the job market and the relevance of these skills, I am approaching the end of my career, so it’s not a pressing personal problem. But I think it would be very sad if the skills and knowledge of old were lost. I think it’s very important to have a mix; it makes life much more interesting. We’re put on the planet to have fun and enjoy ourselves, and physically working on an etching plate is a very different experience to working on a screen. It requires a very different kind of decision-making.
What is so important about what we call ‘old technologies’ is that they force a commitment to an image. On a screen, you can save at any point and remake. With older technologies, each decision you make, you have to build on. If you’ve made a line you don’t want, you’ve got to burnish it out, polish it, and scrape it, or embrace it and put something on top. There is something very human about the fact that you can’t go backwards. In human discourse, if you say something to someone, you can’t retract it. You might apologize, but it’s still there. If you can just erase it and start again, that’s very different. It’s interesting for students to understand that they have to live in the present, take responsibility for the decisions they make, and learn how to move forward. I really value new technology, but I think it is most interesting when it works alongside traditional practices. We must also remember that all technologies were new at one point. I’ve just written a large book on woodcut; Dürer in the 15th and 16th centuries was working with woodcut, which was the latest technology of the time. It enabled images to be distributed throughout the world in a way that hadn’t been possible before. So, there is a danger in thinking that technological is a recent phenomenon, technologies have been evolving all the time. All technologies were new at some point.
In terms of teaching printmaking, there is a danger of closing down traditional courses since it is very difficult to restart them. Once you sell the presses, you lose the knowledge of the technicians and artists who work with that technology. It is very difficult to then start from scratch and form a new department. The danger for young students is that although there may be an expansion of new technology, if it is at the expense of old technology, it can become a diminishing and less rich experience.